4 Simple Service Valve Tips
Before I give the tips I want to address the tech who tells the customer it was “probably the service valve” or “the caps were loose” as a plausible reason for a leak without actually doing a proper diagnosis. Don’t make excuses, find the leak. Now some tips.
#1 – Look before you connect
Look for oil around ports BEFORE you connect your gauges every time. If you have a leaking schrader and cap you want to know that before you connect your gauges and eliminate that leak. Keep in mind that a service cap is NEVER meant to be the seal from a leak, it does act as an insurance policy against a tiny leak in a schrader. If you find a leaking schrader, replace it.
#2 – Be Gentle
No matter the valve make sure you protect it from heat when brazing or soldering (Here’s looking at you Staybrite #8 techs).
The schraders should be out when brazing anyway, but the internals of the valve are also sensitive to heat. Ever see a valve leaking from the stem? Odds are it was overheated at some point.
When opening and closing the valve DON’T CRANK DOWN so hard. We all know you are strong, but when you crank it open and closed like that you can overcompress and damage the seals and mating surfaces. Snug is good, if you need to “put your back into it” it’s probably too much.
#3 – Check Your Seals
A 1/4″ service port is actually just a 1/4″ flare fitting. Technically they don’t NEED a seal if the cap is a flare cap (think Trane brass caps). The only trouble with the brass flare caps is they do need to be on pretty snug to seal.
Most manufacturers have gone to caps with a rubber O-ring seal inside, they seal more EA skirt and they only need to be finger tight. Before installing these caps get in the habit of checking the seal EVERY TIME. Make sure it’s there and that it’s in flat.
I have seen many leaks caused by an O-ring that got put in cockeyed and depressed the schrader slightly when the cap was installed.
#4 – Try the New Fangled Technology
We used to always advise using a bit of refrigerant oil when making flares and even when reinstalling the top caps on service valves. The oil doesn’t really “seal” anything but it helps you get a snug fit without twisting or damaging anything.
Trouble is, we are going away from mineral oil and toward POE and POE fouls if it is exposed to the air (humidity) for too long. Granted, a drop of mineral oil on a flare isn’t going to hurt a POE system but IT’S THE PRINCIPLE DANGIT!
I have raged against the use of thread sealants like leak lock in refrigerant circuits for years. I have seen teflon tape and leak lock on flare fittings and Chatleff fittings… Teflon tape and leak lock do not belong on refrigerant circuit components folks. They aren’t designed for that purpose and if they get in the system they are gonna cause issues. In many gases gumming up the threads and mating surfaces with these products can inhibit a good seal by getting between the flare mating surfaces.
A product I like is called Nylog. They make a version for mineral oil systems (Red) and one for POE systems (Blue). It is a very thick but constantly viscous product (never gets hard) and it won’t hurt the system if a little gets inside.
You can put a drop on the threads and mating surfaces of all your flares, chatleff connections (the valve connections with the teflon seals), top caps on your service valves, pipe threaded ports…. everywhere
You can also use it on your manifold and hose connections to get a better seal when pulling a vacuum.
Just use a small amount otherwise dirt will stick all over everything.