R22 Retrofit Tips


The price of R22 is getting ridiculous and one of the #1 requests I have been getting is for recommendations on other refrigerants to use in place of R22 and best practices, so here we go.

No, you shouldn’t mix

There are NO refrigerants that you are supposed to use to top off an R22 system with. if you do it, you are going against industry best practices, contaminating the R22 for whomever might recover it later and above all else BEING VERY NAUGHTY!

Don’t “top off” an R22 system with something else. It isn’t supposed to be mixed and you are gonna have no clue what your saturation, superheat or subcool actually are.

Know the Consequences

A retrofit refrigerant will not perform as well either in capacity or efficiency. Before you retrofit make sure you disclose this to the customer.

The Oil Will Be an Issue

Most R22 systems had mineral oil in them. All approved HFC refrigerants are incompatible with mineral oil and require POE oil. Can you get away without removing and dumping the compressor oil and adding POE… maybe… but you are running the risk of oil logging. Sure you could add an oil separator, but “ain’t nobody got time for that”.

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If you do retrofit, for heavens sake, make sure you properly mark the unit.

So my advice is, don’t retrofit unless it really makes sense. Most R22 systems are already older and may be replaced soon anyway. If you have an old system that you only want to limp through another year or two then maybe you can retrofit without oil replacement and cross your fingers. I’m not a huge fan of the idea because of the risk and hassle.

If you are going to do it I would suggest R-427a as a my favorite alternative. It is listed as a good option by the EPA, it is readily available and it has some of the best performance ratings in efficiency and capacity in testing.

R-438a (MO99) is also a decent option because it was specifically formulated to do better with mineral oil return than other option, however…. it still isn’t great at returning mineral oil.

My suggestions are based on typical A/C applications and R22 only. Different applications may require different retrofit options but most of this will still hold true.

Just consider your options wisely… and don’t call it a “drop in” please.

— Bryan

P.S. – here is a good write up by Forane on 438a and 427a

3 comments

  1. Dave Johnson says:

    following

  2. Chris says:

    When we retrofit we generally recommend 407A or 407C due to being the closest P/T to R22. This allows for very little adjustment to valves and no powerhead changeouts. Oil change outs vary. If there is an oil separator, oil reservoir, and oil filter we just dump the oil and change the filter. But if there is none of that and no one want to pay for installs we have to flush the entire system.

    1. Bryan Orr says:

      Issue is oil Miscibility with the 407 series of refrigerants. They are less tolerant to mineral oil than other options.

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