HVAC/R Brazing Indicators

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In Brazing and soldering tubing, we have a few things we need to accomplish to make a proper connection

  1. We can’t overheat the joint to the point that it overheats the base metal or the flux where applicable
  2. We must bring the entire joint above the melting temperature of the brazing alloy
  3. Draw the alloy deep into the joint

New techs often underheat, overheat or take too long to complete a joint because they don’t use visual cues to apply the alloy at the proper time.

Every metal and alloy responds a little differently but we always use indicators of some sort to know when to start and stop.

Some things you need to know before making a connection are

  • What is the melt temperature of the base metal?
  • What is the working temperature of the alloy?
  • Is flux required and is it external or integral to the alloy you are using?
  • What is the thermal conductivity of the metals?

Most metals we work with will respond to heat in the same way with a color change shown in the chart below. Notably, aluminum will show no change in color before it hits its melt point.

Copper to Copper

Copper to copper connections require no flux when rods that contain phosphorus are used. This is why rods using a small amount of silver with the remainder of the rod being made of copper and phosphorus are common.

Most of these phos/copper alloys have a working temperature around 1200°F and copper has a melting temperature of around 1950°F. A quick look at the chart above will show you that a good brazing indicator would be copper in the “cherry” range of 1175 – 1275°F when applying the rod. We use the Solderweld 15% round alloy at Kalos.

Copper to Brass 

Brass is a metal that is made up of a mixture of copper and zinc. Brass has a lower melting point than copper but is great for casting so many valves and other refrigeration components will be made of brass. It is preferable to use a high silver content alloy with either an external flux or a flux coated rod like the Solderweld 56% rod.

You will then heat up both sides of the joint until you see the proper color on the copper and to a lesser extent in the brass as well. The flux will also act as an indicator because it will go completely clear and flat giving both base metals a “wetted” look at about 1100°F (for most appropriate fluxes). Both the color change and the clear flux can act as indicators that the temperature is correct on copper to brass.

Copper or Brass to Steel 

Working with copper or brass to steel will definitely require a brazing alloy with no phosphorus and flux. Steel changes color in much the same way as copper but it has less thermal conductivity which means that the heat you apply tends to concentrate in one spot rather that travel the way it does with copper. Steel doesn’t melt until 2500°F but the working range for the flux is generally 1100°F – 1600°F (depending on brand/type) so you can easily overheat the flux when working with steel as well as bump into the copper melting temperature of 1950°F if you aren’t careful.

When working with copper or brass to steel use the metal color in that “cherry” zone as well as the quiet, clear flux as an indicator of proper brazing temperature.

Aluminum

Aluminum gives you no indication of when it’s going to melt which makes it more tricky to work with. It also melts at 1220°F which means that if you are working with aluminum to other metals you are in the danger zone as soon as there is any redness in the other metals. In brazing aluminum to aluminum, patching aluminum or working with aluminum to other metals you need to rely heavily on the aluminum flux to tell you when it is time to apply the alloy.

For aluminum to aluminum work we use Alloy-sol from Solderweld because you can apply as much flux as you need and it gives you a great indication of when to start applying the rod when the flux goes clear at around 600°F.

For aluminum to copper we use Al-Cop, it has a flux built into a channel on the rod that can be helf to the joint and will melt and run out when the proper temperature is reached.

In all cases we are looking for visual cues rather that overheating and damaging the base material or burning flux or underheating and globbing up rod onto the joint.

— Bryan

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One comment

  1. Gary Reecher says:

    Be careful when creating swaged connections that they are snug for a good capillary action to draw the material into the joint. Loose joints will result in using excess material to cover the joint and the excess will be pushed into the system.

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